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Twists in Fiction and Real-Life Digital Caution: The L Word S1 E4

March 13, 2024 Marika and Karyn Season 2 Episode 3
Twists in Fiction and Real-Life Digital Caution: The L Word S1 E4
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Distant Friends of Dorothy
Twists in Fiction and Real-Life Digital Caution: The L Word S1 E4
Mar 13, 2024 Season 2 Episode 3
Marika and Karyn

Ever feel like you're riding an emotional rollercoaster while watching your favorite series? That's precisely what we unpack in the latest episode of our podcast, as we sort through the drama by characters and situations from Season 1, Episode 4 of 'The L Word'. Join us for a heartfelt journey through Alice's tumultuous love life, Jenny's complex web of affection, and the myriad challenges faced by Bette, Dana, Shane, and Kit. We reflect not just on the show's events, but also on how these characters' choices resonate with our own life experiences.

Have you ever finished a series and felt a twinge of sadness, mixed with a dash of pride for guessing some of the twists? We dive into the storytelling of 'The L Word', pondering character arcs and the nostalgic finish. Then we switch gears to 'Gideon the Ninth', sharing our thoughts on the mesmerizing plot and our yearning for a happy ending amidst the tragedy. It's a conversation full of introspection about our emotional bonds with fictional personas and the stories that keep us returning for more, despite knowing the journey ahead may not be smooth sailing.

Wrapping up, we tackle real-life topics from the tech-savvy evolution of bedside tables to the shared family experiences around a PlayStation 3 console. And because life isn't all fun and games, we recount a sobering encounter with an online scam, prompting an earnest discussion on digital vigilance and the generational divide in fraud awareness. So, grab your favorite snack, settle in, and get ready for a chat that's as varied as the contents of a well-stocked bedside drawer.

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Ever feel like you're riding an emotional rollercoaster while watching your favorite series? That's precisely what we unpack in the latest episode of our podcast, as we sort through the drama by characters and situations from Season 1, Episode 4 of 'The L Word'. Join us for a heartfelt journey through Alice's tumultuous love life, Jenny's complex web of affection, and the myriad challenges faced by Bette, Dana, Shane, and Kit. We reflect not just on the show's events, but also on how these characters' choices resonate with our own life experiences.

Have you ever finished a series and felt a twinge of sadness, mixed with a dash of pride for guessing some of the twists? We dive into the storytelling of 'The L Word', pondering character arcs and the nostalgic finish. Then we switch gears to 'Gideon the Ninth', sharing our thoughts on the mesmerizing plot and our yearning for a happy ending amidst the tragedy. It's a conversation full of introspection about our emotional bonds with fictional personas and the stories that keep us returning for more, despite knowing the journey ahead may not be smooth sailing.

Wrapping up, we tackle real-life topics from the tech-savvy evolution of bedside tables to the shared family experiences around a PlayStation 3 console. And because life isn't all fun and games, we recount a sobering encounter with an online scam, prompting an earnest discussion on digital vigilance and the generational divide in fraud awareness. So, grab your favorite snack, settle in, and get ready for a chat that's as varied as the contents of a well-stocked bedside drawer.

Speaker 1:

Hello, hello, hello and welcome back, because it's just impressive. Dorothy, my sister, says hi, she saw your Tiktok. Yeah, she did, she liked it. Oh yeah, she's pretty good like that. Yeah, we're back, we're back. We are like, officially back. This is number three of us being back. Oh my god, yeah, we are back, and and I think we're on a little little roll to keep being back, it's pretty good, I'm glad we're back. We too can glad that I'm I don't know able to do it again.

Speaker 1:

I Mean like we still, we continued our conversations. We just didn't record them. Yeah, but like at that point in time, like where there were things we needed to say Not have been recordable, right, there was a lot of things happening. I mean, like even then, like last last week, when we talked and then I edited it, Mm-hmm, we talked for an hour and 40 minutes and I uploaded an episode that was 32 minutes long. That's all that you could take out of it. Yeah, dang. Well, you know, we just kind of go off on our little tangents and then it's like, oh, maybe we shouldn't put this on the internet. Maybe we shouldn't put this on the internet. Oh, we definitely can't put this on the internet. Back to the task at hand.

Speaker 1:

Season one, episode four. Okay, I've done it differently now. So before I was like writing down everything that happened scene for scene. Now I have like tried to separate it into the different people or a situation, any things, okay, and then I just like added it, added each one. So like the situations that we have are Alice, jenny, bet, dana, Shane and Kit. Okay, like those are like the main things that are happening, the main storylines that we're exploring in this one.

Speaker 1:

But also, this is the first episode and I didn't realize that it was but it is the first episode where it opens with like some Historically gay something. What episode are we again? Season one episode? So, for longing, are you looking at the synopsis? Only because they all kind of blur together. Yeah, they do.

Speaker 1:

So this is the first one where they open up with like the historically gay whatever, because that didn't happen in episode one, two or three. This is like the first one and it's like it's just like a photographer who's a woman taking pictures of another woman. Oh, yes, I just rewatch that. Yeah, okay, and then they like bang, and then it like comes into play later on in the, in the, in the episode, but like that was a historically gay thing. And then from now on they do that like every episode in the first season, which I think is super-duper cool, and then they stopped it and I like enjoyed it, but um, so basically what happens in this one is that Alice is dating Gabby and then she finds out that Gabby is like doing stuff with another woman Making out. Shane told her, yeah, she's good, like that she is, and then all of her friends tell her that she needs to end it. And so she does.

Speaker 1:

That's it. That's what I love. That's mean. You're an emotional cripple, narcissist and I deserve better. You fuck you, alice, absolutely. Are you still offended that?

Speaker 1:

I think that you're most like her. I Mean like when she's good, she's good, but like I can't get over what she did later on. That was one thing, though. Like the rest of them do such awful stuff all the time Up on this one thing that she does, yeah, but I think it's a pretty big thing. You're not wrong, but I just I think that they threw that in there and it was just such a anyway. Excluded from that, I guess I appreciate it. But also, alice has a tendency to go for really messed up, people Emotionally stunted. That's super weird. I don't know how that was a way to you. Hey, now my current girlfriend is okay. Well, it took you a few years to get there. Let's just say it did, it did. But like saying that I'm good at this, I stumbled across mine by accident. Like my current girlfriend is emotionally stable and like nice and not mean. So I know you did, good friend, it did, I did, though, okay.

Speaker 1:

And then so the storyline for Jenny the very serious writer, the very serious, right, actually I know what. It doesn't really even get into her writing it all in this episode. So I was kind of happy, but still there's a lot like she takes up a lot of this read time and I don't like. So she like wakes up with Tim and then she sneaks away so that he still sleeps, and she's like sneaking away. And then she goes to the coffee shop with Marina and tells her like I can't be around you. What is too hard? Tim's wonderful, and I finally feel safe for the first time in my life. And then doesn't she just take off her top, yeah, and then they bang oh wait, does that happen there? No, that doesn't happen there. They don't do that. Yet they did that at like the end of the episode. She's like we are over, I can't do this.

Speaker 1:

And then Tim like goes to the planet and he's like playing pool with Marina and Jenny walks in. She's all like jealous and you're like are you jealous about like Marina or you jealous about Tim? Right, except that she fucking faint oh, I know that was so silly. And she's like oh, maybe I just had low blood sugar, but you were flirting with Marina and yeah, it was just. It was a lot of blood sugar to be that dramatic all the time. You know she's exhausted, right.

Speaker 1:

And then like, even, like, so Tina Even comes over and she's like tries to help and she's like you know I'm here, I can help you like navigate this, whatever. And Jenny is like no, there's nothing going on. And Tina's like well, it's not that I think is going on, but like where it travels fast in the lesbian community like, which is so Accurate in real life. People see how you guys are interaction, we're not fucking stupid. Yeah Well, she says it's not even that Marina would have even said anything. But even if she like looked at you a certain way, someone might assume something. And like Jenny's like oh my god, I can't believe that Marina would have told anybody. Yeah, she completely misses what Tina's trying to say. Yeah, I'm trying to backpedal, but like what can you do at that point? Yep, and so then Jenny goes over and bangs Marina and it's like the end of the episode for her.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think she's like, well, like I'm fucked either way, so I may as well get some out of it, and like we also get to like explore bet a bit. Mm-hmm, I'm like her professional side and she's like trying to like pitch this idea for this art show called provocation, which is just gay porn. It totally is very, very overtly sexual and like the people at her like arty place or like no, it's too risky, and so like we're going to go with this thing that we've done every year for the past five years and we just want to do that again. And she was like fuck you, like I don't agree with this. So she goes behind her boss's back and she goes to like some other city to go talk to the person that has the provocations, like all of the artwork in their private collection, the woman who's actually married to Sarah Dang Paulson in real life. Yeah, really, the name Paulson. Sarah Paulson, oh well, in the show her name is Mrs People. Oh, yeah, she is married to Sarah Paulson. They're married, they're fully married.

Speaker 1:

She's like an actual lesbian in the show. Yes, oh, she's not. No, no, no, she's not. So Mrs Peabody just says that, sorry, her name is Mrs Peabody. She's like I was a lesbian in the seventies, that's it, you know. I mean the actress, oh, the actress. The actress is actually, yes, yeah, cause, sarah Paulson, she will.

Speaker 1:

Every once in a while people will be like I don't know, shipping her with someone and she'll be like, um, you're like 40 years too young for me. I love that. Fuck, yeah, she's obviously happy, but um, but yeah, so she like goes and she finds Mrs Peabody and she meets her and then they become friends. But Mrs Peabody still says no for, like, I don't know professional reason, and that was that was, that was us. Like our first, like real foray into Betts professional career, like trying to understand it.

Speaker 1:

I think she's like sobbing over this piece of art. Yeah, so, it's a piece of art. That was from the beginning, though, right Like it's. So, yeah, the historical gay part at the beginning, and this woman took a picture of this other woman for 12 years and put them all together. So that was kind of cool.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, she cried and like I don't know, I don't get that, I don't have. I've never looked at art and cried, but I have listened to music and gotten goosebumps and apparently that's a genetic thing. Yeah, I didn't know it was a genetic thing. I thought that it happened to everybody and that when you heard certain kinds of music you would get goosebumps, um and. And then TikTok told me that not, it doesn't happen to everybody. And I'm like well, that's fucking sad. It's a pretty cool feeling. It honestly is. Yeah, although I get like cringe goosebumps too. So that's why I can't watch something like American Idol. It really bugs me. Oh, that's too bad. I love watching American Idol. When they like fuck up, no, I feel so bad for them that I get like stress goosebumps. That's sad. But I mean like good for you for empathy. Thank you, I think it's because I've sang in public lots. Mm, hmm, that's my best guess.

Speaker 1:

Okay, brief intermission for a joke that my eight year old just told me. Why was the snow yellow? Is the dog feeding it? No, why, because Elsa let it go. Okay, that's actually pretty funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1:

So let's see, bet is Mrs Peabody's friends now, but Mrs Peabody still says no. So that was Alice, jenny, bet, dana, dana asks out the chef. The chef says yes, they go out for dinner. Yay, dana. Uh, I'm so happy for Dana, I am too. Shane. Uh, so Shane's crazy exes making up posters that like have her picture and they're like user on them and like put some up everywhere. Mm, hmm.

Speaker 1:

And then, like she confronts her and she was like hey, like you need to stop this, I don't do relationships, it's not my style. And then, like the ex is like I don't want a relationship, I just want to be around you all the time. Yeah, I just want to love you and you to love me and you not to love other people, not a relationship, right? And so what happens? They bang yeah, and then Shane leaves. Was that? Yeah, like Shane leaves and she's like we talked about this. And then she's like yes, we did. And then accepts it or whatever. Yeah, or like a first two at least.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, other than that Kit gets drunk and that's literally it. That's all we know about Kit, like right now is that she got drunk and that's a bad thing and Bet is kind of irritated at Tina for not doing anything and Tina's like she's not my responsibility, like it's not my place, like I don't know what I'm allowed to do, and that's kind of it. So that's where we're at in the outward and like I'm happy that I've watched the entire thing I really am. But at the same time I'm kind of sad that I've watched the entire thing because I would like to be making predictions right now but I can't make predictions because I already watched the whole thing. Yeah, I mean, like I made some predictions to you in text and I will be bringing those up at some point because I was pretty fucking spot on.

Speaker 1:

But also their exposition is like it's clunky. It's clunky, for sure it is, and maybe it's because I was watching it like I was just binging it but like episode after episode after episode, and so like it felt a lot like pretty forced with the exposition. But maybe if I was actually like spending a week between episodes, it wouldn't feel as forced because, like you know, you've had a week to like forget about things and so you do need kind of reminders and stuff and like you do need like little, like breadcrumbs. You got to remember, like the time period too, and the fact that it was the first of its kind. Like things don't exist in a bubble, it is part of its context. Yeah, you said begrudgingly, I do say begrudgingly, I'm faintly painting my drawings. Butt crack, butt crack. Oh. But you know what I am doing also right now Because, like I had to drive like two hours this morning and then two hours in the afternoon because I cover another office. It's two hours away.

Speaker 1:

So I decided to start listening to Gideon the Ninth, the audio version. What's that? The audiobook? Yes, isn't it so good? Yes, and I'm like I'm listening to it. And so we're at the point right now where everybody got to Canaan House and Gideon's not allowed to talk to anybody and yeah, the vows silence, the vows silence. And Harrow has disappeared for a couple of days and she's just now thinking like where the hell is she? And that's like where I am right now in the audiobook.

Speaker 1:

But like I don't know if I want to listen to it the whole way through, can I just like stop at the like last couple chapters and just like restart again and pretend and pretend, because it would make me a lot happier, definitely. Oh, juice, I just want everybody to be happy. I don't want a tragedy, I want a romance. You did You're reading the wrong book, friend, I know, and I can't blame you if I need you to read it. You did make me read it and I was so excited and I was so happy and then I got my heart torn out and it's a real sad little heart. Well, you're just starting to get your heart torn out. Well, yeah, but I've listened to all three now. Oh, yeah, that's true. Yeah, so I've had my heart torn out three times. Poor, dear. I mean sad.

Speaker 1:

And you know that the next one's not going to be happy. I know it's just going to be more of the same. And especially the last one, I feel like 90% of it was just a lead up to that last three chapters or whatever. Yeah, it was only meant to be a trilogy. And then they split a lacto, yeah, oh, ok. Well, I'm kind of OK with that.

Speaker 1:

As long as there's more of my little fiery redhead in the last one, I'll be happy. You think? You think there will be. Can you stop saying no, oh, you're absolutely going to be more idiot. I don't think there's going to be happiness. That seems a very unrealistic thing to me. I just said I just want a happy end. They have places where you can go. I know I almost want to just like. I just want to. I don't know, I just want like just the happiness. I just want everyone to be happy. I know, I mean I mostly at this point I'm really in it for Paul Paul. Who the fuck's Paul? You said you read a lector. I did. Which one's Paul Paul is? When Palamities and Camilla, you know? Oh, I don't remember, maybe I wasn't paying attention, I was just listening to when I talked about the redhead, fuck everybody else. But I mean, what happens when I've noticed is that like usually it's pretty unsatisfying and heartbreaking and terrible, and then we get a bunch of goodies at the end. Yeah, very true. So like there's going to be good stuff, we just might have to wait for it.

Speaker 1:

Oh, also, hey, I haven't shopped for bedside tables recently. Ok, switching gears yeah, I don't know what this could possibly be about. So I haven't shopped for bedside tables recently. I didn't know the direction that bedside tables have gone, and then I realized I needed some bedside tables because I had just like I don't know, I had bookcases next to my bed and it's actually kind of awkward to have bookcases next to your bed because it makes it really hard to like make your bed when the bookcases are taller than your bed and you have to like put the fitted sheet down the mat. It's just awkward, it's just a big bowl of awkward. So I'm shopping for bedside tables and it's apparently like just a really common thing now that bedside tables come with plugins. That seems fair. It does. But it never really crossed my mind.

Speaker 1:

Like I remember seeing something about it like a couple years ago. I mean like ooh, lap of luxury, like to have an outlet and maybe a USB port on your bedside table. That seems like something like the rich buggers would have, or like upper middle class solid upper middle class they would have that. And then, like I went on Amazon and I ordered some bedside tables and you know what they have? They have fucking two outlets and two USB ports on the top. That does feel very luxurious though it does.

Speaker 1:

I feel so fancy. I don't have to have little octopi or whatever the plural of octopus is. I don't have those around my bed anymore, I just have both of my nightstands are plugged into the wall and then on top of the nightstands are the outlets and it's just so handy. There is a total of four USB ports and a total of what's that? That's nice it is. I mean like two on each, but like, yeah, and two on each, so a total of four like plug-ins, and they're all three prong, which is handy because like three prong makes it work better, because, like my computer is three prong and I just feel kind of fancy. You should feel fancy, I do feel fancy, and like now, if somebody does move in here who knows who that could be but they could also have USB ports on their side of the bed and not have to, like, go searching for things. That would be nice. Yeah, I just feel real fancy.

Speaker 1:

But also, bedside tables are very small. Yeah, like compared to my bookcases, bookcases are a normal set. No, bookcases are big. So anything smaller than a bookcase just feels small. Oh, my lordy, lordy.

Speaker 1:

Also, when I uploaded our last one, I have a tendency that as I am having wine or whatever happens to be the drink, apparently, I talk slower as the night goes on. Now, that's a funny thing to realize about yourself. It really is. And so I uploaded the last one and I sped it up to 1.25. Oh wait, no, maybe only 1.10. I can't remember now, but I did speed it up like a little bit because I was listening at the very end and I'm like I am talking so slow. It just sounds funny. But in my editing software I can do pitch correction though, that when you speed something up it pitch corrects back down to the proper pitch so you don't sound like a chipmunk. So I did that, so nobody will ever know. Yeah, I set up my old PlayStation 3.

Speaker 1:

I used to have like a bunch of games and like including some like fun games. But they were all fun, I enjoyed all the games. But like I used to have like a lot of games. I have no idea where they went. I found a stack of games but like I used to have like I had Ratchet and Clank and Tomb Raider and Uncharted and like I had all these like decent, like kind of family friendly games. They've all disappeared and I've been like maybe, like I don't know, it's just it's weird. It's weird the ones that are gone. It doesn't make sense. And like LittleBigPlanet2, I know I bought that one and I have no idea where it went anyways. So I had all these games. They're gone. But the ones that I have left are like Modern Warfare 2 and Modern Warfare 3 and Killzone 2 and Bulletstorm.

Speaker 1:

And now my kid no, callie, you stay, you stay there. I don't want your stinky butt near my face. You're such a shit. Like my kid wants to play these games. And like I got. I got it out because I wanted to play Singstar, but I only have Singstar for PlayStation 2. But apparently you can play PlayStation 2 on a PlayStation 3. And then I plugged in the PlayStation 2 Singstar and it's like oh no, your PlayStation 3 doesn't support PlayStation 2 games. But then I got all these other ones, or I found all my other ones. And so now my kid has been playing like these fuck her off, callie, I love you, but you're just no good girl.

Speaker 1:

Now he's like so he wants to play games with me and like we play LittleBigPlanet it is what it is Play a little bit of like or not, russian Clang. But he, oh no, jack and Daxter. He's been playing Jack and Daxter. He likes that one a little bit, but it's also kind of confusing. But then like okay, let's play Modern Warfare 2, which is arguably the best of the Modern Warfare game. Just saying so we're playing Modern Warfare 2.

Speaker 1:

And like, if the game itself, the campaign mode, is too hard for him, because he's 8, he shouldn't be playing it, so he gets frustrated, he can't play it. Okay, fine, then we play like just against each other and we have to like kill each other, but then, like I end up killing him over and over and over again and he just gets mad. I mean, yeah, we have a like deal with it, get better. So now we have this thing where, like he can kill me like as many times as he wants, but then the next round I get to kill him as many times as I want and that kind of goes. Okay, I like that, yeah, but like he can't, I can't let him play like Bulletstorm. That's a very rude game. I never was allowed to play any of those. So, yeah, I mean neither.

Speaker 1:

Like when I was a kid, we had a regular Nintendo where we played Duck Hunt or Mario. And then, when I was, I think, 11 or 12, was when the PlayStation 2 came out, and so, no, it was when the PlayStation 1 came out, the first one, the gray one and my dad got one and I played. We had had like three games. We had Cool Borders 2, which is where you just snowboarded, and we had Real Fishing, where you just went fishing. And then we had like the sample game disc that came with the PlayStation. That had you could play like three minutes on a bunch of different games and I was like, oh, and I might have had Crash Bandicoot. Oh, and I had Spyro. Okay, so there we go, decent old collection, but like that was that, was that was it.

Speaker 1:

And then, like now, like we have a little like fake Nintendo, where it has like a thousand games on it but like it has Super Mario, super Mario 2, super Mario 3, like it has those, but it also has like oh, hell, what's it called? Has like more, not Mortal Kombat, but I can't remember. Anyway, it has a bunch of like old Nintendo games, just great, but it's all like that eight bit style like Mario. And then we have the Wii and so on. The Wii we also have like all the Mario's. They are all on one disc. And then we also have like Sonic and Just Dance and Mickey Mouse one and like all very family friendly ones.

Speaker 1:

And then I pulled out the PlayStation and now we have all these killing and shooting ones, and that's all he wants to play. Now. I'm like, I'm home from work, that's what I'm playing. It's a killing shooting one, right, but it definitely like he can't. Can't play Bulletstorm. It's so rude Like it talks about like I don't know even did to hear that shit. Oh, give us some time and he might as well talk about it normally. Oh, they already do. Actually, I don't know. I know that they try and hit each other in the nuts.

Speaker 1:

Like he's not allowed to go to sleepovers. Haven't been in a shoot yet, but it will be. What's that? In your position? I can't imagine being different about it, though, right, yeah, no, I will absolutely support him. He can go over to a friend's house and if the friend is having a sleepover he can go there. But like I'm coming to pick you up at 10 or midnight or whatever, I don't care, but you're not spending the night. Too much shit happens to sleepovers. I don't know. I know that that's true. It's just that all my sleepovers I ever had as a kid were super tame, right. So that's how our mutual friend I saw her boobs at one time. That was pretty exciting, but not really, because we were like 12 and they were just little. Well, I mean, like he still like he goes for sleepovers at my parents' house, goes for sleepovers at my sister's house, but like some kid from his class that I don't know the parents that well, not a freaking chance. Yeah, you got to be careful and I understand Especially him. He's so gullible, he's a sweet boy, I'm so keen.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, are you ready to see my artwork? Yes, ma'am, a little bit not safe for work, kind of hard to see. That's a naked lady. It's a naked lady. I see a boob. I see a butt. I see wonderful colors. Thank you, I was playing with shading. It's fun, it looks fun, and she's done Backgrounds a little iffy, so I might just noodle about with that. That's beautiful, it's really satisfying.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there was something that I actually wanted to talk about. Do you want to hear a funny story? Yes, please. I got a text message. I think it was Sunday. Yeah, sunday morning I got a text message and it was like you were caught speeding and I was like, fuck, I didn't realize I was speeding, I wasn't. It was a scam. Oh no, tell me about it.

Speaker 1:

Well, so I clicked the link that they sent me and it went to the government to be sees website and I was like you know what I'm not really 100% sure this could go either way Like it feels kind of scammy, but also like I could see this being like a province wide policy and I definitely do drive really fast and I go past several school zones, I had to work, whatever and so I was like, hey, lauren, check this out, tell me if you think it's me. And she checked it out and it seemed real to her, like it linked to the actual government, to BC website. The website itself had a really like normal name. It was just pay online BC, like you know, like it has simple short name Mm-hmm. Anyway. So, and the ticket itself was only like $22. But I never had a speeding ticket before, so I didn't realize that wasn't a normal amount. Well, I never had one. Oh well, I did that. Well, I don't really speed that much. It's like very like reasonable increments, like Canadian speeding to 10 over, yeah. So anyways, I paid it.

Speaker 1:

And then Michael put in my credit card for mission learning. Michael comes over and he was like oh yeah, no, that's definitely a scam. So then I had to spend the rest of the time on the phone with CIBC trying to like cancel my credit card. But I felt so like Karina, because once I get a hold of like the customer service lady I don't know what was, I don't know what's that possess me Like sometimes I just get like really friendly when I'm feeling stressed because of the defense mechanism. And so then I made friends with her and we ended up talking about Costco for a long time and like she has plans to go to Costco this weekend and we're chatting and it's like me in the bank lady became best friends. Aw, like something that my sister would do, you know. And so I was like I'm good about it. Yeah, I mean like I wish that this meeting ticket was $22. How the fuck would I know? Yeah, it definitely felt stupid.

Speaker 1:

Well, like though not helpful now, but in the future like you don't have to pay speeding tickets right away. Well, yeah, I know, but like other stuff goes over text message. Like you get your COVID shot over text message, you get sometimes like other information that's important over text message. It happens, oh, it totally does. I guess I've just had like a number of speeding tickets and like their thing is, if you pay within 30 days, you get $10 off. So you have 30 days to pay. So in the future, if that happens Well, I hope it never does yeah, but you have 10 days to pay, or 30 days to pay, yeah, it said like you have to pay this much.

Speaker 1:

Being this date, it all seemed super legit and I made sure to get Lauren to like check it to see if she thought it was real too. And she also thought it was real. I mean, like the scams are getting really good. Yeah, like there's one happening where they will, they'll text you. And I got one of these. They text you and they say, hey, mom, I'm in trouble and I need you to text me at this number because my phone is broken or whatever. Like, hey, mom, I'm with my friend and I need you to text me back at this number, I need your help, or something like that. And like, I got that text and I was like what my child can't even spell, much less text. And that's like probably the only reason why I really second guessed it right away. And then, like, as I looked in, like just looked at it, critical thinking, I'm looking at it and the phone number that they texted me from didn't match the phone number in the text message. So like that was a tip off, but like so that's one that happens, which you know what? If you're a parent and your kid texts you from a random number, of course you're going to be like yes, my darling, I will do whatever you want. Like I need to help you, you are my whole reason to be alive, and so that's scary.

Speaker 1:

And then also, if they call you and they can take your voice from your, like your voicemail recording and they like only need like a few seconds of the way that you talk and then they can use AI to make a new like they make you talk or whatever, they can talk with your voice after only hearing your voice for like three seconds or something. And so what's that? Nothing else. Very silly, they are very silly. Well, like so they would like hypothetically, they call your phone number and get your voice and then somehow, through the internet powers, figure out who your mother is. And then they call your mother and they use your voice and they say hey, mom, I need your help right now I've been pulled over by the cops and I need you to e-transfer me money to this account and I got to go buy. And then they hang up and then, like your mom is like, yeah for sure. And then they go and do it and then they find out after that it was a scam. Like this is something that's happening. Oh, definitely. So, like my kid and I have a secret password. So if we ever think that it's like something, or like if somebody goes to pick him up from school and it's not me, like he knows to ask for the password, and if they don't know the password, he doesn't get in the car, I mean, like, obviously, if it's like my sister or my parents or whatever, that's fine, but like if it's some random person, he just asks for the password. It's just, it's scary the amount of shit that can be done with just your voice. And like the scammers and the scammers are getting really good it's just scary and you know what I heard.

Speaker 1:

So, like our generation, as much as you did get officially scammed, like our generation is still pretty scam savvy. But do you know who's getting scammed the most often right now? Boomers? No, it's like the 20 to 25 year old Gen Z. Yeah, cause their computer illiterate. Yeah, yeah. And like, like that blows my mind because, like I am of the impression that, like they're so computer literate because, like so, we were brought up in the age where, like, computers exploded, not literally, like figuratively, and so, like we watched all this stuff happen. And so we look at, like our boomer parent and we're like, how can you fall for that scam? And, like you know, you watch them try and navigate the internet. And you're like, can you just close all these ads please? And like, for us it just seems like second nature, like close the pop up, close the pop up, close that, close that like, or like put on ad block or something, and it just it just makes sense.

Speaker 1:

But like for, yeah, for that younger generation, like they're being brought up on tablet and phone, they're not being brought up on a computer. They don't know, like, they don't understand files, they don't understand web browsers. No, they really just know how to use Chromebooks and like, even then not very well, like I'm, I think about it they can't do it. What's that? If it's not an app, they can't do it. Like, if it's an app they do, okay, but if it's not an app, they're like floundering, like I genuinely think about, like setting up a laptop in my house, just so like my kid could have a chance at like trying to figure out like this is how you get up. But he does. He does know how to like get on the internet and stuff. But that's because he goes over to my parents house and, as much as my parents are boomers, they also like still have like laptop not Chromebooks but like actual laptops so he's had to learn how to work through that and figure that out. So that's helpful. But, like I have a genuinely debated like setting up a computer or laptop in the house just to make sure that he can like figure out how to navigate through it. That's a fairly good idea.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like when we grew up, there was there was a computer room. We had a computer room where the computer sat and that was where you did the computer thing. Yeah, and then you fought with your siblings over who got to go on MSN Messenger when my siblings weren't living in the house. When I was at age Cause I was an accident. I mean, so was I. I was too real. No, no, no, no, I'm kidding, I was a nice surprise, but like, yeah, like you, I remember it was at the bottom of the stairs, wasn't a room? But like bottom of the stairs, that's where the computer was, and then it moved over to where the hot tub used to be. Mom and dad took out the hot tub and then that turned into a computer room and we had like two computers in that room.

Speaker 1:

I remember those computers, yeah, like one for the kids and one for the adult and like it's a lot of fun. We had to figure out how to work them. And you figured it out and it worked and like, yeah, like I saw this, like I don't know TikTok or something or no, maybe it was just a meme was talking about how this generation and it's got AI and stuff like that and how this generation is going to be so good at being able to tell when it's AI and like it talked about like calling into whatever service and being like super duper rude to like whoever answered the phone and when you're like hey, you need to be polite, and then the kid being like um, it was a robot, it wasn't even breathing, like I kind of think, yeah, and like on the one hand, I believe that, but on the other hand, these kids are really stupid that they are and not very kind. No, I've seen good moments, but like there's a lot of not so good ones. That makes me worried because, like, my kid is a little sweetheart and I don't want him to go and hang out with people that aren't little sweethearts because he's going to get hurt. We're getting her, it's part of growing up, but I see what you mean. And then, like a panic, thinking about, like all the kids that like lure the friend into the woods and then kill them, blender man and stuff, uh-huh, another reason that my kid can't go on a sleepover. He doesn't have any survival skills, because I'm good at doing that.

Speaker 1:

What messing things up? Oh, fuck, yeah, I mean who isn't you know who isn't Gideon, because she just dies before she can mess everything up. Fuck a bitch, I know. I love the line where she's like I gave you everything and you didn't even want it. It is getting pumped in the clock, though I don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's been an hour and 45 minutes and I do have to go. I got affordable sleep last night, so I gotta go to bed. And, on that note, I have to go. Man, like it's short and I'm exhausted Me too, and it's only 9 30 and we're going to sleep. Look at us go, I know, but else it's been two hours. Yeah, I'm not sure if I'm going to get up here. There she is. It's pretty. I wrote a little love note. I'm going to get up to Lauren tomorrow. Aw, because you got to work to keep your shit alive. Doesn't just happen by itself. Why not? All right, karen, it was good to do. I love you too. Take care of yourself. I'll see you soon. Absolutely. I'll talk to you later. Bye, honey.

Unpacking Season One, Episode Four
Speculating on the Plot and Characters
Family Gaming and Bedside Tables
Scam Awareness and Generation Differences