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The Great Sperm Caper and Deep Dives into Selfhood: The L Word S1 E3

March 06, 2024 Marika and Karyn Season 2 Episode 2
The Great Sperm Caper and Deep Dives into Selfhood: The L Word S1 E3
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Distant Friends of Dorothy
The Great Sperm Caper and Deep Dives into Selfhood: The L Word S1 E3
Mar 06, 2024 Season 2 Episode 2
Marika and Karyn

Navigating the high seas of life's challenges and the torrential currents of personal growth, Marika and I reconvene to unfurl the sails of our latest heart-to-heart. From my fresh supervisory seas to Marika's candid confessions of insemination trials, we chart a course through both murky waters and moments of unexpected comedy—like devising a plot to bring sperm across borders with a wink and a nod to legality. Marika's brave share of the emotional and financial whirlpools encountered in the pursuit of motherhood invites you into the raw, sometimes humorous realities that accompany such a profound journey.

Strap in for a cultural odyssey as we steer through the diverse terrains of sexual identity and expression, recounting tales from my recent Stateside sojourn that underscore the tightrope walk of being openly gay in contrasting environments. As we anchor in the harbor of popular media, dissecting the lesbian theme in "The L Word," we navigate through the laughter and the analytical, infusing our personal tales and cultural insights into the mix. This episode isn't just a conversation; it's an exploration of the intersections where life's complexities meet the power of sharing and understanding—one heartfelt story at a time.

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Navigating the high seas of life's challenges and the torrential currents of personal growth, Marika and I reconvene to unfurl the sails of our latest heart-to-heart. From my fresh supervisory seas to Marika's candid confessions of insemination trials, we chart a course through both murky waters and moments of unexpected comedy—like devising a plot to bring sperm across borders with a wink and a nod to legality. Marika's brave share of the emotional and financial whirlpools encountered in the pursuit of motherhood invites you into the raw, sometimes humorous realities that accompany such a profound journey.

Strap in for a cultural odyssey as we steer through the diverse terrains of sexual identity and expression, recounting tales from my recent Stateside sojourn that underscore the tightrope walk of being openly gay in contrasting environments. As we anchor in the harbor of popular media, dissecting the lesbian theme in "The L Word," we navigate through the laughter and the analytical, infusing our personal tales and cultural insights into the mix. This episode isn't just a conversation; it's an exploration of the intersections where life's complexities meet the power of sharing and understanding—one heartfelt story at a time.

Speaker 1:

before we get into anything. Oh, hello, and welcome back to Distant Friends of Dorothy. You know why. You know why I'm saying that, because I actually posted the last one that we talked about, the L word. Oh, my god, I know, and I looked and like I hadn't posted in a year. So, um, recording the call and everything. I'm recording the call and everything. So welcome back to Distant Friends of Dorothy. And I'm here and I'm Karen, I'm, I'm actual Karen and I'm here with my wonderful lady friend.

Speaker 2:

Wonderful Lady friend. It just sounds um. It's Marika, just not actual Marika, fake Marika. They said my name's Mai Tynams, and now it sounds weird.

Speaker 1:

I have to host like our team meetings now because like I'm the, I'm the supervisor, that's a two part of the job, and like I start them off now with hello and welcome back, and then I stopped myself before I start saying anything, but like cause it was pretty consistent there for like a good solid year and a bit, yeah, and like slipping back into it is pretty easy, which is I appreciate. But, um, yeah, I didn't realize that I would feel the need to like talk like that when I was in and like it's a, it's a virtual meeting and I'm hosting it.

Speaker 1:

Put on your, your host name, and I do Um so yeah, and I mean, like I know, last week we didn't actually do the whole like talk about the L word thing. I was so not well last week yeah.

Speaker 2:

You really weren't.

Speaker 1:

I was laying down and now I'm not. I had a migraine for two days and then also, uh, then it snowed and now I'm like, oh, I'm just old and like, yeah, like my body tells me when it's going to snow. I didn't know. My body was telling me it was going to snow. I just thought that like I just had a migraine, but the fun of having a migraine, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I was getting headaches like three or four times a week or like a month there this winter, and then it just stopped because of the snow. A gift horse in the face or whatever.

Speaker 1:

Speaking of gifts, do you have a gift arriving in a few in nine?

Speaker 2:

months. No, no. So that's $3,500 down the drain. Ew, that's rough. She was very excited because she was able to have a drink yesterday. Oh well, that's good. And she got all branked up, although now it's already too late. So now she's back on the the clomid for the next round.

Speaker 2:

But next round could be interesting. Why is that? Well, like hypothetically, you could do your own insemination. Yes, because, as far as we're able to find out and we're not really able to find out, okay, so my tangent, okay.

Speaker 2:

So, first of all, the sperm banks in Canada aren't really a thing, because you have to pay and you can't, or you can't pay people to donate. So most of them are in the States. However, as far as we can tell it, you're not supposed to bring sperm back across the border. But we went to the Government of Canada website. We really couldn't figure out if it allowed it or not, because it's personal use, I guess.

Speaker 2:

So then Lauren called the border people and they didn't know. They said they'd have to look it up and they're like call the I don't know the bylaw sort of city person, whatever, whatever, some ombuds person or something. So she called them and they're like well, we don't know, actually We'll have to like research it and you should call this person or you should go down to the border and ask them. But yeah, so as far as we know, we don't. If it can't be, we've called every single person we can think to call officials, people who this is their job and they don't know if we're allowed to bring it across the border or not.

Speaker 1:

Okay, like, do you just have to declare it?

Speaker 2:

Maybe you don't know and like we can't figure out how, because, like, we got the phone numbers through some research and we're actually calling like the guy at the border, Can we bring this across? So option one we find out it's not illegal and we bring it across, and then, I don't know, grab a hotel room and do like ICI or, yeah, hire a midwife to squirt it on in there. Option two we go down to Seattle and then we get a hotel room and just do it down there. I don't think it counts as bringing it across the border if it's in your uterus at that point. I don't think so either. Right, I think yeah, either way, that's going to happen.

Speaker 1:

All right, that sounds like fun.

Speaker 2:

No, and then we'll. We're going to ask the midwife. If I can like observe I'm just going to get so familiar with my partner, cervix, like what color it is, how viscous the mucus is, if it's squishy, like your nose, your chin or your lips. There's just there's a lot that goes into it, and then I'm going to have to learn how to thread the needle. Oh, you know, I'm pretty sure I can get it, that'll be easy. It's more like making sure that everything is like super, super, super sanitized. Yes, yeah, those are my spring break plans. I will somehow get my girlfriend pregnant, sounds like really fun plan.

Speaker 1:

Let's see what you think. Okay, so on Sunday, sunday, saturday, on Saturday night I'm laying on the couch and there is a horrible smell that I smell wafting through my nose. Is it a dead animal? It was, it was a dead mouse. But I'm like where the fuck is this mouse? I can smell it, but I cannot see it. I'm like I'm sitting on the couch, like in the front little corner of my room and like there's a vent there. So I'm like maybe the mouse is in the vent because I have some very, very dumb cats and so I've won very dumb cat and I have another cat who's not dumb and just wants the dumb cat to do better, and so he will go and get a mouse and keep it alive and then bring it to her and put it down in front of her so she can hunt it, because he realizes how dumb she is and he's just trying to help.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, it's adorable. Except that when cats, like you know, grab mice by their teeth, they do a lot of internal damage and the mice will stay alive, usually long enough to get away from the cat, hide somewhere and die. Hide somewhere and die, like the adrenaline rush wears off and they're dead. Or like if I ever save a mouse from one of the cats and then I throw it outside, I'll look out in the morning and wherever it landed it's dead. Like they don't, they don't make it, and so I'm guessing that's what happened with this mouse is that the cat brought it to the other cat to get the cat to hunt and she just kind of looked at it like oh, look a mouse. And so the mouse ran away and it ran into the couch and dying.

Speaker 1:

And then I could smell it on Saturday night, but I didn't know it was in the couch. I thought it might be in the couch, it might be in the vent, I thought it might be the garbage. Like I didn't know what was going on. I was hoping it was the garbage, and if it wasn't the garbage, I was hoping the mouse was in the vent. And so then I like texted my mom and I was like hey, what are you doing tomorrow? Can you come over and help me? So she came over and I was like Okay, so here's the thing. I think there's a dead mouse in the vent.

Speaker 1:

And she was like oh, okay, let's get your father over here. He'll go under the house in the crawl space, check and see if there's anything you can see down there. So he goes in and he looks in the crawl space. There's nothing there. I'm looking around and I'm smelling and no for sure it's not in the vent, it is in the couch.

Speaker 1:

So my mother and I flip over the couch and, like it's a couch, you can't just like rip it apart, like so we try to take out some of those staples and then, like I try and like put my phone in there with the camera going to like see if I can see anything. But I couldn't even see anything. So the end of that was that we couldn't get into the couch, and so I was like does like his dad had a plumbing and heating company and like, does dad have one of those cameras that he would go and like look in pipes with? And she was like no, he actually rarely ever used that, so he just rented it from the store when he needed it. Makes sense. Makes sense, for sure. She's like but I think your sister, who now owns the business, I think your sister actually bought one. Okay, so we've messaged my sister and, yes, she has it, but it's at her client's house. She left it there over the weekend because she's doing work on this house and she can't get it till Monday.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so then, Monday rolls around and meanwhile I have this dead mouse in my house and like it stinks, but like I can't do anything, can't get the couch out of the house, like by myself, and like there's nowhere to put it, and it's raining, and I still like this couch. It's a very nice couch. Yeah, you don't have a couch, right, but I'm like also coming to terms with the fact that I might have to buy a new couch after all of this shit that I went through for this couch and now I might have to buy a new couch. So, okay, fine. So Monday I go to work. Parents are doing their thing, my sister drops off the camera at my parents house.

Speaker 1:

I go to my parents house after work to pick up my child and while I'm there, I had to give him a haircut because his hair is too long. So I gave him a haircut and then my dad was like hey, you want to cut my hair? And I was like yeah for sure. And then he was like, also, if you just leave the camera, like we'll go deal with the kid with the mouse tomorrow. And I'm like, am I trading a haircut for you going and dealing with the mouse? If that's the way it is, I don't care, I'm fine, I don't know how to cut hair. I just do number two buzz cut, like that's it. But cut my dad's hair, he's happy. Got my kids hair, he's happy.

Speaker 1:

And then the next day, which was yesterday while I was at work, they came over, they found the mouse, they took the mouse out and then they sprayed like nail odor all over inside the couch, put the couch back together, so it's like take out the staples. So they had to like put the staples back in and put the couch back together. And it kind of still smells a little bit in the house. But I think this because it was like dead animal for so long.

Speaker 2:

There's not enough to breathe in the world.

Speaker 1:

Right. So it's getting better and I'm guessing that by this weekend there's going to be no more smell and yeah, so that was a new fun adventure for me. My God, it was terrible, it was absolutely terrible, yeah, what a nightmare so that was.

Speaker 2:

That was new.

Speaker 1:

You know what else has happened, not to me specifically, but in general. We're not allowed to like Alberta. Alberta has happened. Transgender people and bathrooms.

Speaker 2:

Are they still like waiting to find out?

Speaker 1:

And they're still waiting to find out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, it's terrible. There's protests and like it makes me just glad I don't live there.

Speaker 1:

Well, yeah, but I mean like this is how it started in the States and like now they've overturned Rovers the way.

Speaker 2:

So that's terrifying.

Speaker 1:

Right, but like it's how it started and you're not wrong. It's terrifying Like I'm going to stay at a hotel in April, may, and like I'll be going to this hotel frequently Not well, like every couple months for the foreseeable future, because I have to go to these big meetings in the city and it's like that's the hotel that you stay at when you go to the meetings and so you might as well sign up for the rewards program, because, like you might as well, and so I sign up for the rewards program. And then she sent, like they send me up for this other thing, and they're like you just need to go to the meeting and you get 500 points. You don't have to do anything in the meeting, but you get 500 points. And I was like, okay, whatever, send me to the meeting and it's a meeting about a time share.

Speaker 2:

Oh no.

Speaker 1:

I didn't realize until I was talking to the lady and I'm like Googling it and stuff, and it's like no, this is a time share. And as she's talking, and then she's like you know you could do this at Disney World or do this and this and this. And she's like I realize you're in Canada, but like when do you see your next trip to the States? Like when are you going to come down and visit? And like I was just like you know what? I don't have a passport, my kid doesn't have a passport.

Speaker 1:

Like it's just it's not in the cards right now, but I will absolutely reach out if we ever want to. Like I'm trying to be nice and whatever. But the reality is like you know what, I don't like the States right now because I feel like I have to kind of like tone down me when I'm down there. It's not a comfortable place and you guys have more shootings than there are days in the month, so I don't want to go to your country Like every day. Every day you have mass shootings, at least one, and I know burning.

Speaker 2:

So when I went down to the States recently, like I didn't want a whole hands of Lauren, I didn't want to give her a kiss cheek, I was like we're just friends. I felt so uncomfortable, like I walk into a pharmacy this pharmacy just in a small town right across the border and there's like all these animals mounted all over the wall and they're just staring down at us with their beady little deer and elk eyes being like do it, I dare you.

Speaker 1:

Oh, but right, like it doesn't feel so and like Canada is like, well, apparently Canada is like the safest country for gay people, but even that doesn't feel like it all the time. But like, yeah, no, I totally, I don't feel safe. But I didn't want to tell this person that, because I'm also like what if this person yells at me on the phone? Do I have the mental capacity right now to be yelled at over the phone?

Speaker 2:

And.

Speaker 1:

I don't think I do, and it's just really weird. It's weird. So the moral of the story is we're not doing a time share in the States and I've made someone very upset that I was not doing that.

Speaker 2:

They actually got upset with you.

Speaker 1:

Well, she seemed really sad and I don't know I just I felt guilty about how sad she seemed, but like, maybe her paycheck, like really like, needs me to say yes for her to get paid.

Speaker 2:

It's probably likely.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and like I didn't and like I kind of wasted her time, but I'm not buying a time share. It's not going to happen. I'm not a time share, girly. So yeah, I think that's it. What about you? What else has happened?

Speaker 2:

Oh well, I have like two stories One is wholesome and one is not very wholesome, but I'm going to just refill my drink and I'll be right back. Oh okay, okay, the wholesome one first. Okay Okay. So we have a book club at my school because we're studying how to be better educators, and some of the people at my school came up to me after book club and they're like we have to tell you the story. There's this kid in your class. We'll call her Stephanie. It's not her real name.

Speaker 2:

Stephanie is like really worried about being pretty all the time and caring about her looks, and she's always afraid people are going to judge her. But like she also wants to try all this cool makeup and have a unique sense of style and do all these things. But then she's obsessed with like people are going to judge her and like whatever. So I guess she was in the counseling office crying for quite some time and they asked her like well, think of a kid who has a really cool sense of style, who you think is really confident, but who's also like nice and not very judgy. And she like thought and thought and thought and thought. And she couldn't think of a single person. And they're like well, I don't know, think of a teacher that and she's like well, this is cute because I've only known her a month. I teach an elective class and it switches every quarter, so each class is only three months and so, yeah, I've only known her for a month and we've never really had any like super strong interactions. That's not the best part of the story. So then they were like trying to find ways for her to, when she gets in those moments where she like has to fake it until she can make it and she has to pretend she feels less anxious than she does, what she can do to sort of snap out of that mindset and think about it differently. So they were looking at those like remittals of what would Jesus do, bracelets that Christians used to wear. So I guess her and the counselors, they made one and it's WWD, so it's like what would do and like I had no idea that I even made an impact on this child. But that's so fucking cute man.

Speaker 2:

I guess, like when I teach I talk a lot about how I'm a crazy fuck up person, Not really necessarily, but like it's SEL, right, so it's socio emotional learning. So you have to be like well, you know, sometimes people can say criticisms to us, like we may not be really good for the classroom, maybe we can't sit still, maybe we talk too much, maybe we can't focus, but all those things could be assets if you are a marathon runner or I don't know, a teacher or a professional speaker or a comedian or like things where that's necessary, right. And so I use my own personal examples of things where I sometimes have things that could be considered failures or whatever. Like I always say that I'm a bit intense and I'm a little bit too much and I kind of freak people out sometimes If they're not ready for it. It can like be overwhelming and stuff. But that I like it because I think it suits me as a teacher really well because, like one 30th of my intensity is about right. So if we just take it all and spread it out amongst 30 kids, everybody feels like they're getting some of the sunshine, some of the attention, some of the glow and not being hit with a laser beam. So it's good, it works for my job. So I end up talking a lot about things that I may not be good at or may have been considered flaws, that are in fact just needing a different environment than like the rigid school classroom setting.

Speaker 2:

I like being a teacher. It's my favorite. I like it. It's my favorite. Is it a good job?

Speaker 1:

I like it too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so Stephanie again not her real name, but I really like her. She seemed like the kind of kid that we might have been friends with. That's sweet.

Speaker 1:

I hope that she finds some of her own stuff.

Speaker 2:

And they were saying that next year this year is going to be maybe instead of just SEL for three months, it'll be for the whole semester, so like five months, and they like that they had in mind because I'm like the poster child for SEL, which is kind of nice to be recognized by people who haven't seen my class. So that means they're only doing this by hearsay. They're hearing the kids or other people talk about good things and being like, yeah, and they mentioned next year. So like she's like that's something to think about for next year, and I was like I don't have a job offer for next year, that's right and then bye, but thank you for considering. Oh my god.

Speaker 1:

I love that. That's so nice. Yeah, sally, leave it, stop it. You're so silly. What are you doing? She's eating plastic. Oh, she's not. She always has eaten plastic. She's just not very bright, okay. Okay, she's just pretty and I love her to bits, but she's just, she's just really, really pretty and that's all she has going for it.

Speaker 2:

What else is new? Sel is going. I love SEL. Careers is fine, they're pretty cute and getting them under control. Social studies it's report cards this weekend. So I'm doing lots of work. But also, yeah, the kids are freaking out and the parents are all like, oh, my god, why is my kid failing?

Speaker 1:

And like, oh, because they haven't done anything in like two months Like your kid doesn't even need to do well, they just need to do something. Mm, hmm.

Speaker 2:

Literally hand. Something that's so depressing but that's so accurate. You don't have to do well, but you do have to do something, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Like when we're assessing people to be caregivers. You don't have to be good, you just have to be good enough.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yikes, I don't like that. Which that cool. Yeah, elward, rewatching it again and honestly I just really feel for Tim. He's a really nice man and like I appreciate that like in the 90s and stuff and in the 2000s, there was a lot of like anger towards men and like man hating was a thing that happened and some feminists were like pretty aggressive. So I like that they made the man in the story just a real sweetie pie, like he's just so supportive and loving and understanding and like a very decent dude who doesn't deserve the bullshit that Jenny gives him. Who's Jenny is the worst.

Speaker 1:

So what episode are you on?

Speaker 2:

Dana is turning to date Laura and Jenny has gone to the like I can't see you anymore and then just take the job off, although, marie, I should have been honest with her from the get go. Like Jenny wouldn't have thrown her marriage away, you know, within a relationship, so what episode is that we?

Speaker 1:

were doing these numerically. I don't know what episode is that. I don't know Because we're only talking about episode three. Okay, let's do a quick little Google. Well, I know exactly what's in episode three because I wrote it down.

Speaker 2:

We'll fucking say it then.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So in episode three, Alice starts it off by trying to make the chart deep and just ends up being like oh, you don't think it's deep. How about I get vaginal rejuvenation?

Speaker 2:

instead. Oh, and then she sees her ex situation shit. Yes, gina, I want to say that girl's such a bitch.

Speaker 1:

She goes to get the vaginal rejuvenation and the receptionist is her crazy ex Gabby.

Speaker 2:

Gabby yeah.

Speaker 1:

Oh, but yeah she is. But Tina agrees to make a baby with a sperm of Marcus, mr Blackman.

Speaker 2:

I mean he's lovely, so he is, he's a super cool guy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh, and we also get like our first little glimpse at Shane leaving a house and her crazy ex is watching her.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God, all the like posters.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we're not there yet, though. This is just her watching. And Dana we found Dana's tennis player and she's at a country club and we find out that she has a crush on the chef, but they don't know whether she plays for their team Exactly, and then she spent like then she has to.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and Jenny is just a very serious writer and go on and James comment you scare me sometimes, Jesus Christ, it's so bad oh sorry, okay, okay.

Speaker 1:

And then they talk about Gatar, like because, like you know, yeah, like you said, like they don't know if she's like gay the chef, what is that thing? Gatar? I mean. Like I think that Gatar is a thing, but I think that it's really confusing when people don't realize that they're gay and your Gatar is going off. Maybe it's just frustrating. No, I definitely see that. But like it's not like a hard and fast, like you could look at some, like I mean, I do. I kind of hope that if somebody ever looks at me they think, oh my goodness, that is a gay person. But like I guess how it can be confusing sometimes maybe. But like when they're talking about Gatar, they're not actually talking about like actual Gatar, like they're not talking about that feeling. When you're talking to someone and you're like, oh, you're gay, they're talking about like, hmm, does she have short nails? What kind of clothes does she? Like they're very. Yeah right, that's not Gatar, that's just observation. And then I wrote down Jenny is still a very serious writer.

Speaker 2:

I do not like her.

Speaker 1:

Oh, bentina in Semina at home, and then they bang oh. But here's the thing. I don't know if you picked up on this, or maybe this is just because I watch weird movies, but right after they, like, do the insemination, there is an homage to Requiem for a dream. They do the. Have you seen? Have you seen Requiem for a dream?

Speaker 2:

I think once that it was like so depressing.

Speaker 1:

It's very depressing but like one of the repeated like bits in Requiem is, when they get high there's like a close up of the eye and then it's dilating and there's a close up of the like syringe and injecting and all that Like it's a very specific like order and what you see, and they did that in this in this right here, when Bentina in Semina and I was like that's Requiem for a dream, like that's a clip for clip, that's cool, yeah, and I was like I recognize that, I know that guy is Requiem for a dream. And we also found out that Dana might be getting a Subaru endorsement and Subaru is just super gay.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, do we find out whether or not she gets?

Speaker 1:

it? Do we find out? Yes, we find out later in the episode she did. She got Subaru, which is so great, but like Subaru is so gay oh look at that. But like Subaru has always been gay. Like they were gay. Like they were sneaky gay though. Like they used to like advertise to gay people without it, like what's it not? Not like what's the word? Like sneaky? Surreptitiously yeah, is that the right word? Like they would. They had like in their advertisements like a bajillion years ago. They like leaned into the gay community, but in a way that like the streets wouldn't know, and they had like the picture of the back of the car and then the license plate was like Zena Lover, or like their tagline was at least we have our priorities straight or great. Like like clever shit like that that like the average person isn't going to pick up on, but the gays are going to be like hey, hey, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Anyways that one's like super on out or something, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Like it was all just like these like sneaky gay ads that you would only notice if you were, or like even the way that they like had the pictures and they would have like picture of a Subaru and then both the things on the top were the same, like two kayaks or whatever to insinuate to people of the same gender, I don't know. Anyways, yeah, so Subaru is super gay, that's the moral of that story.

Speaker 1:

Subaru is super gay and they leaned into it. And so when? But here's the thing like when Subaru was scouting data, I was like, like I know as somebody who was in the year 2024, that Subaru was super gay. But like, was it well known back then? I don't know Like what year was that 2005. So they started their gay advertising in the 90s. But you ever watched?

Speaker 2:

the L word when it was actually on in real time. No, how come?

Speaker 1:

Because it was a big scary thing. And I lived with my parents and they could hear yeah, I thought it was porn. Well, that too, yeah, that too, I really thought it was porn. So I could never. I could never in my, in my Christian household. I could never.

Speaker 2:

No, I'm just a Minecraft server. What? Just a old internet meme? Don't worry about it, oh okay, okay.

Speaker 1:

So where are we in the moral of the story? Alice and Gabby almost went on a date but Alice's friend stepped in and then everybody goes to see if the Laura, the chef, is gay. And part of them trying to figure out if Laura is gay was for Shane to go hit on her, because everybody loves Shane, yeah, and she didn't like respond to Shane appropriately. So they're like, oh no, questioning whether or not she might be gay or she's probably straight because she didn't fall for Shane.

Speaker 2:

But really, she just actually.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, exactly. And then, oh right, tim invited Marina to dinner and oh yeah, jenny doesn't know what's that. That was such a moment. Yeah, because Jenny doesn't know. And then yeah, and so then it's dinner, because he invited her to dinner. So it's dinner time, and then Marina and Jenny are in the kitchen and Marina is like show me your ring, and she's like, are you happy? And then Jenny, who's a very serious writer- Don't ask me, that's what you have. And then Beth walks in.

Speaker 2:

And like it's so incredibly obvious what's going on there and, beth, I fucking guess okay.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, she is unimpressed, which I mean like good for you for being unimpressed, but also like those in glass houses. Well, she's not in glass house yet, oh right, Okay, I'm still broke. Yes, it's still break, but yeah. So she did actually talk to Marina later and said, like this is wrong and you need to not do this, and or like not later, but like at the same time, I guess. And then, like that is so upset about it that she actually and this is like couple goals right here she tells Tina that she's like I don't want to be here anymore, Like this isn't working, like we need to go.

Speaker 2:

And so.

Speaker 1:

Tina just like pipes up. She's like, hey, that has an awful headache and I need to get her home. Yep, like that is the best. That is couple goals. That is, we're not going to make it awkward, we're not going to make anybody worry about like why anything needs to happen, like we're just going to go and this is how we can do it. It's a solid strategy.

Speaker 2:

What's that? It's a solid strategy. It really is.

Speaker 1:

And like you just have to have like a partner that like knows that you can do that maybe, and so then bet and Tina go home and kids at their house, and that's really all I wrote about. Kit was just that she was there.

Speaker 2:

What were your thoughts on Kit the token straight?

Speaker 1:

She is the token straight, but like she waffles In what way? I think that if in later seasons, the person that helped her with her big purchase was not dating somebody already, that she would have gotten with that person. I think so, but like there's a lot going on there in general, like she's really messed up in the head. They wrote her. I think they wrote her pretty well. I think they wrote her very like, supportive enough that she can like be around and doesn't get irritating, but like she also can have her own storyline and it doesn't really feel like it's distracting too much. So I don't know, I enjoy her a little bit. I also get irritated with her though, so but I mean that that's just good writing.

Speaker 2:

The character you know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, oh, but also in this episode Laura does kiss Dana, yeah, so I guess we do find out.

Speaker 2:

We're still wondering.

Speaker 1:

Yes. So like, yay, she is, she is gay, it's just that she didn't want to date Shane. What are you doing, kelly? Are you okay? Is it pretty girl? Who's a pretty girl? You're so pretty? Yes, she's a pretty girl. And oh, and, before the end of the episode, gabby and Alice do get together and also Shane's ex gets on stage and calls Shane a menace. And that was the end of the episode. Look at that. So, tada, I really really don't like Jenny. Like there's a lot of things that would have just been better. Jenny wasn't around, like what? And I don't. Like I'm still struggling to figure out, like what the point of her is. Like, initially, I thought that she was just that person that they were trying to get like all the closeted people to identify with, maybe, but like she's so insufferable that, like I don't think anybody actually likes her.

Speaker 2:

I mean, she, that's what she's supposed to be our entrance point. She's our every man, yeah, and she's terrible.

Speaker 1:

So I don't know what the point of her moral of the story is. They're coming here for Easter. Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

That'll be fun. It'll be fun.

Speaker 1:

It'll just, yeah, takes some getting used to, and then we have to go up there because that'll be two trips that they've taken here.

Speaker 2:

You like it better when she comes to you or when you go to her.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I totally like it better when she comes here, like I'm flagging, you're flagging it's flagging Like I'm fading.

Speaker 2:

Oh white flag. Oh, that was fun.

Speaker 1:

I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I don't know All in the house and I got to go to sleep soon. I had a dream last night that Lauren was cheating on me at Christmas in Hawaii Cheating on you.

Speaker 1:

Yes, oh, that's not the word I heard initially.

Speaker 2:

Well, it was terrible and I wake up and I'm all mad, but then you can't like do anything. You were bad. In a dream she had a dream I was cheating on her too. Whoa, at least in my dream she was cheating on me with a woman. Hurry up, falling asleep. I'm here. I'm here, I'm here Ta-da Look. I'm here, yay Ta-da. Look at your leg, look at those gambs. Why is it so white?

Speaker 1:

They're so white, I don't know. The moral of the story is like the scary end. Women are scary and then you know, you know when. Okay, so you know, when you're like as a young closeted homosexual and you're like man, it would just be easier to date women. Yep, what about when you are a homosexual and you're like maybe it would be easier to date men?

Speaker 2:

Well, I'm sure it would be easier to date men, but then you have to be around men. They're terrible.

Speaker 1:

Everything will be fine. It will. The moral of the story is Jenny is irritating. The mouse is dead and gone. The mouse is dead. Long live the couch. Long live the couch Cat. My cat's an asshole, but it is what it is, and maybe at some point I'll have somebody live with me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah and like, just don't think that it'll be like it was, just because it was that one time. Right, great cat really wants to show you her butt hole.

Speaker 1:

Show me your butt hole. There you go, okay, but yeah, one last funny thing is that a couple nights ago like a week ago maybe, I don't know at some point I made myself I don't know what it's called, but it's a martini shaker and you put in vodka and then you put in lemon juice and some ice and then you shake, shake, shake it and then you drink it out of a martini glass. Sounds good, was that? Sounds good, it is, it's very good. And so I made that for myself and I drank it and I put it on the table. And then my kid is like hey, that looks really yummy, I want some. And I was like nobody, you're not going to want this. It tastes like a butthole, like cause. I'm just like trying to be like don't drink this because it's alcohol in your eight. Yeah, like buddy, don't drink this Tastes like a butthole. And then he looked at me and he goes mommy, do you like the taste of buttholes?

Speaker 2:

I mean, why else would you be drinking it?

Speaker 1:

And I said, nobody, I don't, he's like, but that tastes like a butthole. And I said, well, I was just trying to say that it tasted gross. But like, thank you for like pointing out my logics. Little bugger, that's what children do? They point out your logic.

Speaker 2:

Right, I think it worse the smarter he gets.

Speaker 1:

I know I'm arguing with myself. Karma, okay, you go to bed, I'm going to go to bed, and that's it. It's been fun.

Speaker 2:

It has Lovely sleep.

Speaker 1:

Take care of yourself. I uploaded our last episode today, so now I have a week to get this one added. Edited, edited, edited. You went birdkiss with your cat and the cat went away from you.

Speaker 2:

Oh, like that's 90% of our kisses. Cause you didn't want to come here, she was forced to come here. Oh, it's terrible.

Speaker 1:

I feel hard. Okay, all right, you have a wonderful sleep and I will. I will talk with you next week. Maybe I'll have a more exciting update, who knows? I hope so. Maybe we'll see. We'll see what happens. You go play with your cat, all right? All right, I've had a wonderful time talking. You've had a wonderful time talking. I have had a wonderful time. Have a wonderful sleep and I will talk to you again next week.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you will. Goodbye for now, okay, okay, bye.

Speaker 1:

Bye.

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