Ever had a digital mishap where your past unexpectedly dances into the present? Well, join Marika and me, Karyn, as we recount how my students stumbled upon my vibrant history, including a memorable gay parade. This episode of "Distant Friends of Dorothy" is packed with the kind of stories that'll make you chuckle and nod in agreement. Marika is in the spotlight with her creative exploits, from dot journals to crafting crepe paper masterpieces. Meanwhile, we navigate the humorous tribulations of relationships, pondering how love can gracefully coexist with our environmental commitments.
Our rewatch of "The L Word" pilot brings us back to where it all began for lesbian representation on TV—with a twist. We dissect the authentic and often amusing depiction of Bette and Tina's pursuit of parenthood, while also being candid of our loathing for Jenny's character. The portrayal of couples therapy and the deeper narrative it weaves draws us in, reminding us just how groundbreaking this show was for its time. As we share our insights, we hope to bring new layers of appreciation to these iconic storylines and characters.
Wrapping up, we delve into the delicate topics of trans representation and fertility with an open heart. Tess from "Generation Q," portrayed by Jamie Clayton, becomes our beacon of inclusive storytelling. On a lighter note, we muse over the domestic bliss of a new dishwasher and the zen of bringing nature indoors. Our musings on the day's small wins and the power of saying "I love you" leave us feeling uplifted and ready for the next episode. So, curl up with your favorite drink, and let us fill your ears with tales of life's quirky moments and the enduring impact of beloved TV narratives.
Ever had a digital mishap where your past unexpectedly dances into the present? Well, join Marika and me, Karyn, as we recount how my students stumbled upon my vibrant history, including a memorable gay parade. This episode of "Distant Friends of Dorothy" is packed with the kind of stories that'll make you chuckle and nod in agreement. Marika is in the spotlight with her creative exploits, from dot journals to crafting crepe paper masterpieces. Meanwhile, we navigate the humorous tribulations of relationships, pondering how love can gracefully coexist with our environmental commitments.
Our rewatch of "The L Word" pilot brings us back to where it all began for lesbian representation on TV—with a twist. We dissect the authentic and often amusing depiction of Bette and Tina's pursuit of parenthood, while also being candid of our loathing for Jenny's character. The portrayal of couples therapy and the deeper narrative it weaves draws us in, reminding us just how groundbreaking this show was for its time. As we share our insights, we hope to bring new layers of appreciation to these iconic storylines and characters.
Wrapping up, we delve into the delicate topics of trans representation and fertility with an open heart. Tess from "Generation Q," portrayed by Jamie Clayton, becomes our beacon of inclusive storytelling. On a lighter note, we muse over the domestic bliss of a new dishwasher and the zen of bringing nature indoors. Our musings on the day's small wins and the power of saying "I love you" leave us feeling uplifted and ready for the next episode. So, curl up with your favorite drink, and let us fill your ears with tales of life's quirky moments and the enduring impact of beloved TV narratives.
I definitely get asked like oh, like where's your podcast, like where's it broadcasted?
Speaker 2:Like well, well, on that note, welcome back to Distant Friends of Dorothy. My name is Karen actual Karen, actual underscore Karen on the Chikitagi, and I'm here with my wonderful co-hosty lady, actual Marika.
Speaker 1:I've been a Marika this whole time. I was just scared to tell you.
Speaker 2:So who asks you about where?
Speaker 1:Oh my kids sometimes are my coworkers and I'm like I have a podcast, I was podcasting at it. I'm like, oh, I talked about this, my podcast. They're like you have a podcast, what's the name of it? And then I say the same thing. I'm like I will never tell you, come on. And I'm like, no, you shall never know.
Speaker 2:Are we searchable by name I?
Speaker 1:don't know, I haven't tried.
Speaker 1:Have you ever googled yourself? No, but I actually did get all the students to Google me as part of a careers assignment on digital footprint. Oh, so I said do your best. You're young, you know the internet, you grew up with computers. Do your best, dig up all the dirt on me you can find. And then they had to take what they found and make assumptions based on me. Oh, what did they find? They found that I led a gay parade in the old city I was living. And what else did they find? Like not very much, because I had sort of wiped it clean. They found some old pictures of me from Twitter when I had to sign up for Twitter during teaching school, and Frank was just a wee little pup. Oh, they found just a little bit. They found my Pinterest board. They found an old blog I'd done Like things you can't take down because you don't have the password anymore. Yeah Well, that's cool.
Speaker 2:Very cool. You should have them Google me, figure out what the fuck I've been up to. Ok, that could be fun. What do I need to go and take down from the internet? Really, that's what I want to know. Ok, what is your project right now? For what Are you painting? I think I'm organizing.
Speaker 1:So I bought a new book and it's dots. I like the dots so much better than the lines. And then I got new tabs and their pastels. And then I got matching highlighters that are pastels. I got some of these midliner highlighters because I think they're very pretty and that's a little bullet journaling people use. I have my gouache ready. Ok, I wish I was organized enough to have that on my go, but here we are.
Speaker 2:Fun, I am making flowers.
Speaker 1:What kind?
Speaker 2:Roses.
Speaker 1:Out of sticky notes.
Speaker 2:No out of crepe paper.
Speaker 1:OK.
Speaker 2:Like I wanted to make roses out of paper. That was what I wanted to do. I was like I'm going to do this for my girlfriend for Valentine's. She's making me a bouquet of flowers that she's crocheting.
Speaker 1:You just want to be see I can make things too.
Speaker 2:Pretty much. So I ordered this kit to do it. I'm like here's the picture See the pretty, pretty flowers that are made out of crepe paper and I was expecting. I don't know what I was expecting. I was expecting more than what I got. I got the crepe paper and then I had to cut up the instructions, because on the back of the instructions are the template that I have to cut out of every petal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that sounds like it's going to be a lot it is.
Speaker 2:And you need six of these one side, six of each side for one flower, and that's just a lot. And so you. But you can like I don't know what kind of bouquet I'm going to end up with, because you can just only use the first size and that makes like rose buds, and maybe I'll just only do rose buds and then a couple bigger ones, because otherwise I'm going to be cutting so many petals and I love her. I love her to bits. She's amazing and whatever. But like a lot of cutting and I don't know if I have that kind of attention, but I do love her. So we'll see what happens. Who knows?
Speaker 1:I will be good.
Speaker 2:I will make, I'll make, I'll make a row. And well, the thing is, you can also like make a rose bud and then like you can add to it to make it bigger, or you can just leave it like, oh, I can decide, I can make, I can make 12 rose buds and then like go from there, basically Because I have to give her a dozen roses, right, I mean, do you have to? I don't know how the fuck does it.
Speaker 1:How many amount you want?
Speaker 2:I don't know. I don't know how this works. I don't know if I've actually had a girlfriend on Valentine's Day.
Speaker 1:I haven't really done any Valentine's-y stuff. What are doing about it here?
Speaker 2:Taylor and I were together on Valentine's Day but we were fighting Shocking. I don't remember what we were fighting about.
Speaker 1:No, I was late.
Speaker 2:Why.
Speaker 1:Because you guys were fighting. No, not fighting, it's just like I've come to the conclusion that Lauren's not going to ever want to travel. Ok, and like I travel a lot, I've lived in many countries, I'm a traveling girly and yeah, it's just, it's not anything she's ever going to want to do. So I was like let's go to Mexico for a vacation. And she's like I don't know, is that bad for our carbon footprint? And I'm like, oh OK, so we're never going to do that. Yeah, we're never going to do that, and so I'm just sort of accepting it.
Speaker 2:I mean I don't like traveling. You don't like? What is wrong with people? I mean I just don't like flying fat. Though that's really it. If I could just like magically transport to wherever it was, I would do it. But I just don't like to fly fat, because all I can think about is I am really bothering the person that's sitting next to me the entire plane ride.
Speaker 1:I understand, like my old roommate you know the one you still have to get, like the seat extenders. Yeah, it was just humiliating and, like she said, when you walk down the aisle you can just see everyone's face and that they're hoping not me, not me, not me, and that's got to feel pretty awful, yeah. I put the tabs on. Now we have tabs. Oh, there you go. These are all my new highlighter cutters.
Speaker 2:Oh, I fucked this up already. What did you fuck it up already? I just did. It's like shit.
Speaker 1:Well, it's your. You just started learning, did you not?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I should be perfect right away.
Speaker 1:Yours bad as the fucking kids.
Speaker 2:Look at that. That's not, even that's not a flower. Fuck this, don't give up you have to try more. I am giving up on this stupid shit. No, ok, I'll try one more. I need to cut out three more petals, though, because I only have three. Anyways, but also, what I wanted to talk about is I've been watching a show.
Speaker 1:OK, yeah, so you are almost done, right Are you actually done, I'm done.
Speaker 2:So I've been thinking about like how do I want to talk about this and how? And then I was like what if we talked about one episode every time? We talked?
Speaker 1:Well, I may have mentioned it to Lauren that you've been watching it and suggested to her that me and her rewatch the entire thing, because I love rewatching things.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh, ok, so you're rewatching it.
Speaker 1:Well, we haven't yet, because I gave it to you thinking that I wouldn't need it, and then I deleted it through my computer.
Speaker 2:Oh, oh shit. Well, these are nice, so are we allowed to talk about it? You've already seen it, yeah.
Speaker 1:I saw it once, or maybe twice.
Speaker 2:Just remind me what episode you're on and we'll go look it up, ok, well let's just talk about the first episode, which was the pilot episode, which was actually two episodes, because it was too long to put into one, so they made it into two, but they were both considered the pilot.
Speaker 1:That whole first season. I feel like they were really just trying to get people OK with the idea that lesbians exist.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, OK. So here's the thing the first sex scene in the entire thing was heterosexual, called the L-word, and the first sex scene was a man and woman.
Speaker 2:You can't have an arc if they start off already arced Well yeah, but like show the lesbians banging, it was the 90s, karen, it was 2004. Ok, it was 2004, karen, no, it was 2005. It came out the 2005, 2005. It came out the year we graded, apparently, but it was set in 2004. So I wrote notes. Ok, pilot episode. Where do I put this? I don't know what to do with this. Don't wide away. Ok, pilot episode. It's two episodes and then, apparently, timeline-wise, although the pilot is two episodes and they're together, they're also a month apart. Ok, just a fun fact. So it starts and Beth and Tina are there and they're like the first ones and Tina is ovulating, ok. And then Beth is like let's make a baby. And that's your introduction to the L-word let's make a baby, yeah.
Speaker 1:I remember it being very about that and I'm not going to lie, it's pretty relevant.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that was just the intro scene. It was a woman saying to another woman let's make a baby, and then getting touchy-feely, and then it cuts out, and then Mr Tim is introduced as a neighbor and I'm like, oh, ok, fine, and then things happen, and then we get to meet everybody at the planet. So that's when we get to see the coffee shop, which is the friend's coffee shop, basically for lesbians, and you get to meet everybody. And so then there's Bet, and there's Tina, and there's Shane, and there's Dana and Alice and Marina, who is owner, owner, operator. I don't know what she is she has. She is the owner, she owns it, does she?
Speaker 1:I think so. I mean not really, but she runs, she manages and runs it.
Speaker 2:There we go, she manages and runs it, and so we meet all of them. And then like, while we meet all them, that's when Bet and Tina are like, yeah, we're going to therapy. And everybody's like, oh, you're going to therapy, why are you going to therapy? And they're like because we're about to make a big decision and bring a child into this world and we just should go to therapy Most healthy thing that I like that was like good on you. Like, yes, you should absolutely do that you should go to therapy when you are making a big choice like this. Like that's actually a really healthy choice, you don't have to, but like it's not a bad choice, fairly good choice. And this is. And then like so the the scenes in this like it cuts really quick, Like it doesn't linger on one scene for too long and maybe that's why I like it. It like tickles my ADHD a little bit Because right away it cuts to. Like Jenny, jenny, fucking Jenny.
Speaker 1:Like how I hate her so much. Jenny says so much about their character. Like I did someone who was really into Jenny and like I should have known that, like that should have been the biggest red flag. But I just I was brand new into the world, I just been born, essentially, and I didn't know that liking Jenny was a red flag. Oh my God, I think it's terrible. She admired her for her ability to manipulate. She like would send me videos of the time that, like Jenny shuts down Alice in the apartment that time and she was like that's so hot.
Speaker 2:That's not good. That's not good. Yeah Well, and like even right when she gets off the bus she's already annoyed. So it's her getting off the bus and Tim like welcoming her, like yay, welcome here, and that's it, and then it like again ADHD. It cuts really fast to like bettantina in therapy.
Speaker 1:And then bets never there, right, she's always late, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're in therapy bets late, but we find out that the therapist does not approve of them having a child right now because, although they've been together for seven years, they've had a really bad sex life for the past three, that's been so bad about it. They don't get into it, but like a lack of sex. Basically is what it's alluded to.
Speaker 1:I was afraid of lesbian death and stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, and that's when bets. Like you know, we shouldn't have a straight male therapist trying to work through our stuff. He doesn't understand lesbians.
Speaker 1:I don't disagree with her Right.
Speaker 2:So that, yeah, so that happens. And then ADHD, jump, jump, jump. Jenny's moving in to Mr Tim's house and Tim lives right next to bettantina and bettantina are going to get sperm from an artist. And they're like talking to different artists and they're trying to get an artist's sperm, and so they go to this one artist and they're like we want your sperm. And then he like does it in a cup and they bring it to the place and then his swimmers don't swim.
Speaker 1:Why? Oh, yeah, yeah, I remember that. I remember they only have it in the car and they only have half an hour or whatever.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and the lady was like yeah, so the swimmers don't swim, you need to like, figure something else out, basically. But also. So here's the thing, though, while they're out talking with Mr Artist man and getting the sperm, there's a blonde and brunette in their pool. Who is that? I don't remember. Oh, because I can't tell it's so fast. Like it might be Shane, I think it is something. Okay, that would make sense, because Shane's a whore.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I really like Shane. I think Shane's the best character.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it's like just not a very committed type person and sleeps with lots of people, and well, it's at the beginning especially. But so there's this blonde and brunette. You can't really see their faces, but they are in the pool and Jenny sees them through the fence and watches them as they start to bang. So, yeah, she's all pervy and she's looking through the fence at these two women who they don't even, they don't they allude to them about to bang, but then you don't actually get to see it. Yeah, which I mean it is what it is, but like and then, because it's called the L word and so whatever, and then we have our actual first major sex scene, which is Jenny and Tim.
Speaker 1:Like she was so like aroused by what she had seen, that like she tried to like satisfy herself with the guy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think I could handle it if I didn't dislike her. Yeah, she's incredibly toxic. Well, she's annoying right from the start.
Speaker 1:She doesn't even have the decency to feel ashamed of herself like a real woman.
Speaker 2:Right. Anyways, we also find out shortly thereafter that Mr Tim is a swim coach. Yay for her, him. And also we find out Jenny is a very serious writer and she's very tortured, and oh my goodness. And oh, she's such a writer and writing is so important. Oh my God, I know.
Speaker 1:Oh, I want to never go to LA and I know it's not Los Angeles's fault that the show got made, but it didn't help.
Speaker 2:I just she's just so annoying and like she's just this tortured writer, like, oh my God, I don't know if the writers like meant for her to be so hated. I wonder sometimes, like because if they did, they did a very good job. But like if they genuinely thought that like oh, this is going to be like this relatable person that, like all of the like closeted gays are going to like be behind like yay, Like I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't see it. We also find out that the only straight character in this entire series really other than Mr Tim, I guess, but like perpetual character, which is that sister Kit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I think Kit's good.
Speaker 2:Oh, she's good, she's totally good, but she's an alcoholic.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, real bad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so she that's. This is our introduction to her in this episode is her like getting pulled over when she has like no insurance, no driver's license and like is drunk. So welcome to Kit, I guess. Yeah, yeah, that's me. I mean like it is what it is. And then what else happened? Shane and the blonde. Oh right, they have the party. They have the party for. So Bettentina really need to get some sperm. So they're like, screw it, we're just going to have a party with all the men that we know coming over to the party and we're going to ask the men to give us their sperm. But also we're going to invite our lesbian friends, so it's not totally weird. And so they have this party and all the lesbians are there, and Jenny comes with Mr Tim Good for her. And she comes with Mr Tim, but meet Marina.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, she's there and oh, my goodness, and can I also just say Marina is the name of a contraceptive, yeah, and like a place where you dock your boat. Well, there you go. But yeah, so they have all this sexual tension as they're talking about like books and authors and shit at this party, and then like, and Marina knows that Jenny is with Tim, yeah, and then she watches Jenny go into the bathroom and then she follows Jenny into the bathroom and then she makes out with her and then Jenny's like up to evil temptress how dare you do it again, right, like she follows you in the bathroom, marina, and they make make us out, and then she runs away and she like finds Tim and she's like we have to leave now.
Speaker 2:And then they get home and they have sex again. First she blows him and then they have sex, and it's really annoying and I like her, but also at the party, like Bettendina, try asking for sperm and the answer is no, no, no, no, no, no, and it's really sad. Yeah, I know, but I mean that is what it is. This also looks like shit. Maybe I just need to buy her flowers, take a picture of all my failed flower attempts and then buy her flowers. And so then then what happened? Then we have a cut, because of course, we do an ADHD, and who the fuck knows what time it is. And so I literally wrote I'm like is it the next day, is it the next week? Nobody knows, but at some point in the future we're back at the planet.
Speaker 2:Because Jenny went to the planet and Marina was like hey, on Tuesday we're having a little, a little shindig, well, all get together and you should come. And she was like okay, I'll come. And so then she like is all excited that she gets to go to this party. And so she gets like all dressed up and like Tim is like oh, you look really good, you're gonna have so much fun. I'm really glad that you're making friends. And she's like yeah, yeah, I'm making friends, when in reality she's cheating on him. And so she like goes to Party and she decides that she doesn't want to be there because it's a bunch of lesbians who wants to be around? Lesbians, I guess and I mean her on Great. On her way out, she gets hit on. She's walking out and literally a woman looks at her and says hi there. And she pauses for what feels like five minutes and event and like just stares at this woman and eventually she like waves her hands, she's like no, thank you. And like walks away, like is just like, I don't like her.
Speaker 1:I really don't like her main character syndrome just.
Speaker 2:Right, and I really don't want her to be the main character. Um, but yeah, that's like basically it. That was like the first half of the pilot, mm-hmm. So then the second half of the pilot we open up and Jenny is working as a cashier because I guess her door chured, writing the soul just can't make it, and so she has to be a cashier At like a Whole Foods type of situation.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well yeah, and so like. And of course Marina comes through her tail and it gets like two bags worth of groceries and it's like fifty four dollars American, which is like three hundred and sixty dollars Canadian. But while she's going through her tail, she invites Jenny to reading group and Jenny's like not a gay reading group, is it? And it's like no, there's straight people there too. So she's like, okay, I'll go, as long as it's not a bunch of you gays. And then like, throughout this whole thing, bent and Tina are just Jen, generally just angry with each other. And then like and I'm like interspersed are like these clips of Jenny just being a tortured writer. But Tim is just still super-duper happy that Jen is making friends and that she's like gonna go out to this like reading group and it's just so fantastic.
Speaker 1:Was that. He's just such a like a sap, like he doesn't even know that any of that's going on. I feel bad for him sometimes.
Speaker 2:I do too, because he's with like this, like yeah, like he seems like a genuinely nice guy. He pretty much is, yeah, he deserves to. Like, actually, like yeah, so um, oh. Also, bet and Tina are like okay, we're gonna get a donor, we're gonna get a donor. And then bet is like hey, I've arranged for the donor to come over, but I'm not gonna be there. Can you like go with him to the cryo bank or whatever. Blah, blah, blah. And he shows up and Tina opens the door and he's black. Oh, my goodness, it's terrible.
Speaker 2:I mean that that has to be taken into account, though, like it does, but I feel like they alluded to the fact that this was a conversation already.
Speaker 1:I thought they made it pretty clear that it kind of wasn't oh, maybe I wasn't paying attention. Well, maybe I don't remember. It's been a while.
Speaker 2:But like that, the the donor would be black, so that it would have a bit of bet. Mm-hmm and then Tina would just be the genetic, just be the genet. She would be genetically attached. That would be like racially attached.
Speaker 2:I guess I'm excited about yeah um, but whatever, Like Tina's like just rolls with it, kind of sort of. He's like you didn't know I was black and she's like nope, because I do still want to do this. So she takes him to the, to the facility, and they freeze his little sperm ease. Well, like also, they bet and Tina try and like for another artist, but like in a very like a verse of way, like they just tried to get him to have us three, some with them. Um, but they were like we'll just, we'll just make him have sex with us with no condom and with us, meaning bet and or with Tina.
Speaker 2:And then like they were getting all hot and heavy, and then he's, and they're like no, it's okay, it's okay, you don't need to wear one, we're good, we're clean, it's fine. And he gets so Mad and like little, like, throws a little hissy fit. He's like lesbians, not again, right? He says and I'm gonna quote cuz I wrote down the actual sentence. He says why is it, whenever Dyches want to have sex with a guy, it's only cuz they're trying to steal his sperm, like that sounds like a thing a man would say, right like, why else they are lesbians?
Speaker 2:They do not like the men. And then also, this is when Marina and Jenny bang for the first time and then Jenny cries and she's just irritating. She cries like then she gets home and she cries more and there's just a bunch of crying and melodrama.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's just great.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, oh melodrama. And then it also cuts back to Alice and somebody who's a Dana. What's that? You still dislike Alice? It's not that I dislike Alice, it's that I think that they really like, did her dirty in those in the later seasons, oh, with her Someone. Yeah Well, like just kind of generally speaking, like they just made her, like they had her out with someone and they like made her kind of dumb.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's voice too Like I think they gave her a dumb sounding voice, unless the actor talks like that, and in which case I've just been really insulting.
Speaker 2:I don't think she does. I think it's like Bernadette on Big Bang Theory, because I, like in Generation Q, she doesn't have such a her nail. Yeah, but we have Alice and Dana. Dana, I think it was at her house and it was the beginning of the chart. Oh, we got to the chart, the chart.
Speaker 2:So the chart has started Alice, like pointing out all the lesbians who have slept with each other and how you're like, you know six degrees of lesbian, but it's more like three degrees of lesbian, and as soon as you include Shane, then it doesn't count anymore because she slept with everybody. But yeah, and then we get like so we had like the, the banging between Jenny and Marina, which ended in Jenny crying, and it was like whatever. Then there was actually a really good like lovers scene between Bet and Tina, which like lasted a while and it was really like romantic and also like, really like engaging and actually enjoyable. So that was nice. And then the pilot ends with little Miss Jenny waking up and going out to have breakfast and Mr Feng Tim proposes to her by leaving the rings on her breakfast plate, poor Tim. He's all like excited. He's like yeah, this is the right step, this is what we do next.
Speaker 1:This is good, this is so virtue and great. Look at me being a good man. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Meanwhile, his girlfriend is sleeping with Marina and I, you know, like, as much as I don't like Jenny, like I really don't like Jenny, I kind of don't like.
Speaker 1:Marina either. Well, especially like later on, right, yeah, she just doesn't make good choices. No, she like deliberately fucks up Jingle.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I don't think that anybody should ever really do that. So, um, yeah, I don't really. I don't really like her either, but like, not to the like, not to the same level that I don't like Jenny, um. But yeah, so we have been introduced to everybody. We have minimal like interaction with Kit, but like she's around, but like Dana, being the like in the closet ish, because she's like a famous not famous, but semi famous tennis player and like nobody knows that she's gay yet and so she just has to like pretend to not be gay, like even to the party, like the sperm donor party Bringing someone to party.
Speaker 2:Yeah, bringing her beard. He's a beard and she is also his beard, let's be honest here, because he is also very, very gay and but, like you know all of that, Um, Shane is just this, well, okay. So here's the other thing, and I said this before, I'm going to say it again they're all fucking fems.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's one of the major criticism the show got.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like even Shane, who is as close to being androgynous as possible, is still pretty femmy.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like, or maybe I don't know like. I know that later on there's other players that come into the mix.
Speaker 1:But but that was famously. Everyone thought that was so badly hit.
Speaker 2:Oh, it did not think that it was well handled. Yeah, I was quite frustrated.
Speaker 1:The world agrees with you, oh good.
Speaker 2:See, and that's okay. So here's. The other thing is that I'm watching this series now, at the ripe old age of 30, something, 36, 37. How old are we? I'm 36. You're 36. So I'm 36. Oh my God, I'm going to be 37 soon.
Speaker 1:I know you really are. It's coming up oh shit, haha, uh, crap.
Speaker 2:I'm not ready for that birthday. Uh what?
Speaker 1:37?
Speaker 2:That's not even a bad birthday, I don't know, but uh, the moral of the story is that I'm now first time watching the L word at 37 years old, 36 years old, uh, in 2024. And, like holy macaroni, I should have watched this a long time ago. So well, all of these, like everybody, already has their opinions on it. I know nothing about it. I don't know. It's a late situation.
Speaker 1:What's that You're like in this fresh late situation?
Speaker 2:Like you don't have any preconceptions, right and like I never heard of anybody talking about it, like I'm not in any of the programs.
Speaker 1:I remember being on TV and like quickly changing the channel as soon as it came on so I wouldn't get caught.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't even watch it when I was on TV. I didn't even like risk going to the channel, so I finished. I finished all of them, watched them all.
Speaker 1:Okay, so you've happened to Jenny.
Speaker 2:Yeah and uh. I'm watching Generation Q now.
Speaker 1:Which is also, I think, not very good. Yeah, Like. I don't Like it starts off, you're like, okay, lesbian sex, this is what I'm looking for. But like my mom was really into that TV show Grim and like the one girl, finley, she was one of the characters in that TV show Grim, she was like a girl, like a teenager. Now I can't un-know that and it just feels weird.
Speaker 2:Oh, I mean fair enough. Um, I think my like I was watching it, like I watched it after I finished the L-word and I don't know what I was expecting. I wasn't expecting to see everybody again, uh-huh, um. And then all of a sudden everybody starts showing up and I'm like, oh okay, awesome, we're gonna like continue this on. I'm actually kind of looking forward to that. That could be kind of nice. I don't know if it's like the cinematography part or like the writing, but it just. I mean, it's just it's not the same, which I mean how could it be? Like it's a completely different show, but like they're they've got these characters that they've tried to bring back, but they just don't feel like they're back, like it feels boring, almost. And it also feels like they're trying to like address like a bunch of different, like they're trying to like get everything in there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're trying to like fix all these criticisms but they're kind of like losing the magic of the thing, like it wasn't perfect but at least it was like I don't know kind of original.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and now it's a bit boring. It is I'm like, and they're also like, trying to like, check some Tiki boxes.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Which and I'm like, I mean like I'm all for, like you know, representation and shit, but like really feels like they're just checking Tiki boxes.
Speaker 1:Oh, like with the uh disabled chick.
Speaker 2:Well that but also like, like the amount of attention that they well, I mean like I guess the trans thing in in the L word wasn't great.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:They got a lot of flack for that. But like the trans thing in this and like I just I don't like seeing like the reaction to, like you know somebody who is in a helping field, who is going to be like primarily helping trans kids, it would make sense for that person to be a trans person and I don't think you should get so grumpy about it. I don't know what you mean. Um, like the trans character who's actually trans in real life. So, yay, you mean Shane's girlfriend, I don't know who, Um, the Asian American, I only sort of remember. Oh okay, well, we're introduced to this person, like right at the very beginning and they are a, an FTM trans, but like, like obvious, like not obviously, but like they are, like, like has been trans for a very long time, went through transition like a long time ago, like I, as I'm watching it, I'm like they suck, they've got an actual man trying to play a trans man, basically. And then I looked it up and note this is an actual trans man playing it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but like they're in, so Mr Transman is in a helping field of providing counseling to you.
Speaker 1:Oh, yes, I remember that yeah.
Speaker 2:And and he gets all grumpy because he's only getting trans kids and he's like I'm not just trans and it's like okay, but like there's so few, like there's so little representation, yeah, and I mean you should.
Speaker 2:of all people, you should know how important it is for kids to be able to connect. So I feel like I don't know that they they kind of handled that not so great and that, like maybe it could have been, instead of like taking a stand against having an only trans caseload, it could have been like maybe offering to take some others, but not like make it such a big deal, mm-hmm, be like I can also help kids. Like other kids, like like kids who are involved in the system in any way, are like super more likely to be some sort of like legitimate across something. Yeah, of course. So just I don't know some kind of I was. Just I just got a little frustrated when that happened. So it was like you're throwing a hissy fit, stop it.
Speaker 1:The only good trans representation, I think, is Shane's partner, so I'm not there yet.
Speaker 2:Maybe what do you mean, shane's partner in Generation Q? Yeah, so Shane has a wife?
Speaker 1:Yeah, Shane's wife who is pregnant? Oh, maybe I'm, and they own the. Okay, maybe I'm too far ahead.
Speaker 2:Maybe I mean like not pregnant right now because I'm miscarriage, but like I don't know how far ahead you are, also Shane getting with a trans woman. Good for Shane, didn't expect that.
Speaker 1:Okay, but this actress, I forget her name. I think she's so stunning, like she's just so sexy. Oh, is the actress herself. Yeah, okay, that makes sense. Yeah, it's the girl from Sensei Don't know what. That is Not a fucking clue. Shane's girlfriend on. Jen fucking looking for Shane's girlfriend. This is so many Tess her name's Tess.
Speaker 2:Oh no, we're not there. Oh really, Tess is hasn't come out as being trans yet. That doesn't make sense. I mean, she just is Like. I feel like they would say something about that, because all we know about Tess is that Tess is a recovering alcoholic yeah, jamie Clayton, and that Tess slept with Finley, but there was no mention of trans anything, no see that's why it's done well.
Speaker 1:That's why I think it's done well. That's the only part they do well. It's not ever mentioned because it literally doesn't matter, Like her transness is not part of her story arc. It's just a fact that has nothing to do with anything.
Speaker 2:Okay, but I didn't even know that she was trans. Yeah, she's so pretty, like, does it, does it. But I should know that she's trans because, like, because, why? Well, if it's a part of the story that they did, well, she's still know that it's a part of the story.
Speaker 1:Well, just what do you mean, I guess, if you don't know the actress, and that's different. Is the actress trans yeah, she's famously so, oh, okay, well, I don't know, jamie Clayton.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, I'm not judging a book by their inside cover.
Speaker 1:I don't know she's 46? Man, jamie Clayton could get it. She's a hottie-potati. Makes sense now that you say that she's trans. Have you seen, sensei? No, oh, ok, that was a good career representation. She plays Nomi who's? A transgender friend Sensei.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, not a clue. Aw, it's a Mr Titter-Tack.
Speaker 1:What the fuck? Look at my art so far. Oh, look at you Got the tree, my tree, and I got a little moustara and I got a little flea and I got some trees, and then they're like bleeding into a reflection. Oh, it's beautiful. Thank you, alana. Got me watercolor hands of crayons. Oh nice, just draw that with your pencil crayons and then you put water on it and then it blends it all together. Yeah, oh, that's fucking cool. But dry January is so over, so I'm going to go drink.
Speaker 2:Oh, you're drinking. Ok, good Then I don't feel bad about drinking. You don't have to any way you weird it.
Speaker 1:I know I forgot to tell you what arrived today, what I got a special delivery today.
Speaker 2:Of what?
Speaker 1:It's a dishwasher. Oh my god, really, I haven't had a dishwasher since I lived at home, Like since I moved out.
Speaker 2:I have a dishwasher for the first time in hell lot 2015,.
Speaker 1:I think I'm very excited. I know it may not seem like the most exciting thing in the entire world, but it's like if I spend half an hour a day, ok, wait, let's do the math. I'm doing math right now. Oh, look at you. Ok, 30 minutes a day times five days a week, times four weeks a month, how many weeks a year? 52? Uh-huh Times, 52. Ok, and then 2015. So 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 21, 22, to 324 times nine, and then that's minutes. So divided by 60. 4,680 hours. What hours. I'm very excited. Also, we're going to need one for sanitation purposes anyway. Yeah, so, although fucking Monday we took off work, I took off work, she took off work and I got my blood tested to see if I have eggs. Oh, yeah, they can tell if you have eggs by your blood. Yeah, it's basically like they can measure some hormones and they can predict your ovarian reserve.
Speaker 1:So how much you have left in the old tankerino and when do you get your results? Like five to 10 days. I got to wait for a long time but yeah, that'll know if I have enough in my reserve. I should do. They measured Lauren's ovaries with the ultrasound and on one side she had one egg, on the other side she had two. But when we first started this process we measured mine too. On the one side I had 25. On the other side I had 22.
Speaker 1:So, probably still so. I probably still have a ton, and that's quite high, apparently, for a woman of my age. I like to think my emotional immaturity keeps me up. There you go. You're dinking us to agree. I mean, no, you're so emotionally mature I am better now than a therapy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but yeah.
Speaker 1:So I guess I'll find out. We had an insemination on Monday, two days ago. So yeah, one thing at a time. One thing at a time.
Speaker 2:So when do you find out if this one takes Two weeks? Ok.
Speaker 1:That's OK. I mean, I guess it's pretty stressful stuff. I don't know. I think it's hard. I feel more sympathy for dads than I ever have, because I have three years of me being her priority and her being my priority. She's still my priority, but I'm not anymore and so, as much as I rationally understand it, it's been hard, I come home and I don't get to just chill out. I have to research biology and fertility and understand things and read books and research things and find things, and so it's kind of taken over my life. Yeah, it'll be worth it, and then I too can have someone who won't go to bed.
Speaker 2:Well, I hope that whatever should happen happens.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we'll see. We just bought four more vials. That was about $6,000 we spent today. Lauren was going to borrow money from her dad, but he'd have to go through the bank and pay a bunch of fees. So I just said borrow it from me. And I do want her to borrow it from me. It's the right thing to do. But at the same time I grew up poor and I've never lent $6,000 to anybody, right, and so that's spooky, like she'll pay me back, but it makes my bones chilled and that makes sense. What's the most amount of money you've ever left lent to anybody?
Speaker 2:About $3,000 in total $3,000 to one friend.
Speaker 1:How'd that go?
Speaker 2:We're no longer friends.
Speaker 1:Did you ever get any of that money back?
Speaker 2:No, but that was a friend and they were also not in a great place. I don't think I'm going to break out by a really great relationship.
Speaker 1:But also I'm well aware that you can predict everything Sometimes. Weird shit still happens. So we're going to sign a contract and she's OK with that. Do you think that's weird?
Speaker 2:All of a sudden, my computer just disconnected from the internet. The fuck was I saying? I can't even remember.
Speaker 1:I don't know. We were talking about how hot that one chick is. I was thinking about how hot that one chick is. Which one who placed Tess, Jamie, whatever, Jamie Clayton? No, we were past that.
Speaker 2:We were talking about fertility and shit, oh yeah, but I can't remember what we were talking about and I said something and then realized that I wasn't talking.
Speaker 1:So two weeks we find out? Hey, but we were talking about lending money.
Speaker 2:Oh right, but as long as you have open communication and clear expectations, I think that you'll be completely fine yeah.
Speaker 1:Lauren said that her family they've done contracts and stuff before so she's not offended by it. But I keep waiting for her to be mad at me about it, but instead she's so healthy and I protect her too because it says that she has a full year. So I can't be like, give it back to me tomorrow, just randomly fight or something.
Speaker 2:Lauren, if she's able to pay it back in a year, that's pretty good. Yeah, I think it's feasible.
Speaker 1:This is totally mandatory, but definitely feasible.
Speaker 2:Fuck. There was something I wanted to talk about. I can't remember Whatever, not important. It was probably about Taylor Swift. Oh her new album. No, her announcing her new album.
Speaker 1:Oh, who cares? Let her do it, for fuck's sake, like it's just the whole globe or it's just the fucking. Whatever. They are Emmy, grammy, grammy, new Star with G yeah, who cares? It's like, honestly, two seconds If she's promoting herself, well, whatever. What I just don't get is how she has time to ruin football and make a billion dollars and then also make an album. How many of you think your other shit going on in your life? But I didn't, so I was obsessed with that?
Speaker 2:No for sure, but I just like I have a new job. What do you mean? Well, like same job, but like a new job, like I'm this team leader for this office, yeah, and like now I know everything about all these files, and like these files that are coming in and they're like the people that we went to high school with.
Speaker 2:No, really, and we really I don't know, but if you know them, but like people that I knew like would hang out at the church kind of people, and but you can't see a recording, but like just tell me anyway and then leave it up, OK.
Speaker 1:Uh like he liked my post from December 28. Hmm, but like it's not like stuff from years ago, no, it's new shit. And like it was mostly pictures of Lauren in a bathing suit, Like I don't think it has anything to do with me, I think it's just like ooh, I have to make a girl. Just put her out there to wake up sooner rather than later.
Speaker 2:So I probably have to go now, yes, and I should go to sleep. I should slam some water. I need to.
Speaker 1:I better I'm so excited, but also it's 10 AM and I have to be up in eight hours.
Speaker 2:Yes, I need to go to bed.
Speaker 1:A lot of people are bad.
Speaker 2:I have to go pee, I have to go to sleep, I have to slam some water so I can be a real person. Tomorrow. I have to go talk to my financial advisor in the morning and I don't want to, but it is what it is.
Speaker 1:That sounds exciting and also terrible.
Speaker 2:Yeah, at least I can just walk there now. Yeah, good, ok, you have a wonderful sleep, I'm going to you too. Uh-huh.
Speaker 1:Get a z's Rest your body. Yeah, really fun talking to you, it was. And then here's my final part. I did like a little jar of leaves. Oh, I did a little flower, but I didn't really like it. That's OK, I like it, it's all the better. I got my trees and I got my Montserrat and I got my little flower and then I got my tree. That's beautiful. But yeah, that's what I did today. Very well accomplished, that's good. Ok, go to sleep and I love you and I will talk to you later.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, have a wonderful sleep, and next week we'll talk about episode three, two, three, three, two.
Speaker 1:I'll see you in episode three yeah, ok, cool, ok, love you. Love you, bye-bye, bye.